tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post9077899674261166965..comments2024-03-12T07:11:33.877+00:00Comments on Regency History: Why did Regency lovers elope to Gretna Green?Rachel Knowleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14058142939706153724noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-48377979466673668242021-11-30T22:24:37.244+00:002021-11-30T22:24:37.244+00:00The Ancestry website has details of Gretna Green m...The Ancestry website has details of Gretna Green marriages 1794-1895 but a quick search didn't bring up any result for Oakes. The Gretna Green website has a paid search facility for later weddings.Rachel Knowleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14058142939706153724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-50333417588874532892021-11-16T21:57:48.765+00:002021-11-16T21:57:48.765+00:00Hello I wondered if anyone could help me im lookin...Hello I wondered if anyone could help me im looking for information regarding the surname oakes and marriages of such at Gretna Green could anybody tell me where I may find any records of this. <br /><br />Kindest regards <br />SAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03725536635955427647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-69304522154910619702018-08-06T14:42:48.265+01:002018-08-06T14:42:48.265+01:00Thanks for answering this - I hadn't found tim...Thanks for answering this - I hadn't found time to look it up myself yet.Rachel Knowleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14058142939706153724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-71832878064068177102018-08-03T18:17:14.608+01:002018-08-03T18:17:14.608+01:00Meant to say, that a marriage contracted abroad ( ...Meant to say, that a marriage contracted abroad ( or Scotland) was valid if it would otherwise be valid. The validity of marriages were determined by the church and the state though at the regency period, the church still had the right to determine the validity of marriages, the church courts ahd to observe the law. Also, all marriages were considered valid until challenged except those of minors by license without proper permission.<br />Regencyresearcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10828749339318882968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-1231734195019543332018-08-03T18:12:03.854+01:002018-08-03T18:12:03.854+01:00It wasn't illegal until the 1830's. before...It wasn't illegal until the 1830's. before that it was something the church disliked and would annul a marriage for, but if the couple married and stayed married, it was a valid marriage. Even Lady Holland who had been divorced by her first husband -- and thus shunned by society- expressed disapproval of a man marrying his sister in law. One man had to go to several different clergymen before he found one who was willing to marry him to his deceased wife's sister. Such marriages were called voidable but weren't void until around 1835.Regencyresearcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10828749339318882968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-29068477768585916582018-07-31T01:33:11.740+01:002018-07-31T01:33:11.740+01:00I'm hoping you can help me answer a research q...I'm hoping you can help me answer a research question that I have for my current WIP. I know that in England it was illegal for a widow to marry her brother-in-law. Was it simply that the church would not recognize it or was it actually a punishable offense? And could they possibly have been married in Scotland, despite those laws in their own countries?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04522747706372834056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-41793802466134822362015-12-22T09:37:36.651+00:002015-12-22T09:37:36.651+00:00Awesome information i like the way you have explai...Awesome information i like the way you have explain <br /><br />Regards<br />shahidShahidhttp://www.fpinfo.innoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-6068525398119528512015-12-04T16:24:25.762+00:002015-12-04T16:24:25.762+00:00Enjoyed the article. thanks!Enjoyed the article. thanks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01433820284181839320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-48171497228477561082015-12-02T03:49:14.568+00:002015-12-02T03:49:14.568+00:00Thank you for the info.Thank you for the info.Betty Campbell Maddenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13907259071959342354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-26056396510302152182015-11-30T20:25:36.025+00:002015-11-30T20:25:36.025+00:00Interesting, it had only been 3 years since the ca...Interesting, it had only been 3 years since the calendar shifted to have the new year on January 1st, causing a number of discrepancies in apparent illegitimate births looking as though they were before the marriage, usually over parish clerks being confused about which year it was. Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03121102757759349165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-24025312186065301832015-11-30T19:41:01.594+00:002015-11-30T19:41:01.594+00:00Thanks. It always helps to have a husband with a c...Thanks. It always helps to have a husband with a camera. :)Rachel Knowleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14058142939706153724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-45087312607294869312015-11-30T19:40:22.726+00:002015-11-30T19:40:22.726+00:00Thanks - I'm glad you enjoyed it.Thanks - I'm glad you enjoyed it.Rachel Knowleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14058142939706153724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-5799550335859201102015-11-30T19:40:00.810+00:002015-11-30T19:40:00.810+00:00Thanks for confirming that the Act was effective f...Thanks for confirming that the Act was effective from the 25th March - I hadn't made the connection with the Quarter Day. Interestingly, there were a number of marriages at St George's Chapel on the 25th as well as the huge number on the 24th. I wonder whether they were considered legal or not.Rachel Knowleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14058142939706153724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-23072420429241043112015-11-30T19:36:49.690+00:002015-11-30T19:36:49.690+00:00Thanks for sharing. It is nice to hear Coldstream ...Thanks for sharing. It is nice to hear Coldstream being cited as the venue for the irregular marriage. Though Gretna was the most popular destination, there were other places that provided swift marriages that are little known.Rachel Knowleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14058142939706153724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-31865773795891668582015-11-30T19:31:56.137+00:002015-11-30T19:31:56.137+00:00The Isle of Man was popular briefly for runaway ma...The Isle of Man was popular briefly for runaway matches but this ended with an Act passed there in 1757 with provisions similar to Hardwicke's Marriage Act. Which, of course, left Scotland as the to-go destination for eloping couples. :)Rachel Knowleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14058142939706153724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-88658270109187902482015-11-30T16:43:53.181+00:002015-11-30T16:43:53.181+00:00Awesome information! Love the pictures too. Awesome information! Love the pictures too. Sojourner McConnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16532002965089746400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-3430167269865092482015-11-30T14:18:44.772+00:002015-11-30T14:18:44.772+00:00Thanks for another great article!Thanks for another great article!Cybil Solynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17166266742272912460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-62865382868628425842015-11-30T00:26:56.246+00:002015-11-30T00:26:56.246+00:00The act itself says it was to be effective from 25...The act itself says it was to be effective from 25 March 1754 which was a Quarter Day-- Lady Day. It was also the old first day of the legal year.<br />"That from and after the twenty-fifth Day of March in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and fifty-four."<br /> Robert Elliot and another man-- whose name I have forgotten-- were well known at the time as anvil priests though neither was a blacksmith or had an anvil. They usually had a house or a room in a hotel with a bedroom close at hand . I know Elliot gave certificates after an abbreviated ceremony with words taken from the Anglican service.<br /><br />Regencyresearcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10828749339318882968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-73032590573838710882015-11-29T22:28:23.824+00:002015-11-29T22:28:23.824+00:00Here's a contemporary Scottish Marriage story ...Here's a contemporary Scottish Marriage story which gives a flavour for what went on.<br /><br />https://georgianera.wordpress.com/2015/10/01/an-irregular-marriage-arthur-annesley-powell-did-he-go-willingly/Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06383490762960649540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196124033481143515.post-64630783578240042082015-11-29T22:06:15.975+00:002015-11-29T22:06:15.975+00:00The ages of 14 for a boy and 12 for a girl were th...The ages of 14 for a boy and 12 for a girl were the ages designated as suitable in the Medieval period for all of Britain, and indeed 12 remained the age of consent, if not of legal marriage without parental consent, until the law was changed in 1886 IIRC.<br />The Isle of Man was also eligible for runaway marriages but required a boat trip.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03121102757759349165noreply@blogger.com